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Find sewing machine model number from serial number. Model A Vehicle Serial Number and Location. As shown above in the 1928 Model A Ford Instruction Book, Ford did in fact specify the engine number to be the serial. This appears to be a pre3000 series Heckel bassoon. I have assigned the ficticous serial number 2999 only for identification. Made of palisander wood. I purchased an old antique motor scooter Salsbury Model 85 and although I can read most of the serial number, there are a couple of questionable digits. Why the Movement and Case Serial Numbers Are Unrelated. Are Case Serial Numbers Useful For Anything What About Numbers Scratched in the Case Jeweler MarksAccuracy of the Estimates of When Watches Were Made. The Better Way to Determine the Date. Serial Number Data Table. While opening a watch isnt rocket science, a watch can. Never use. a screwdriver to try to open a case. If you really arent sure. While it is open, make sure you. These details can sometimes be important. A good description of how to open a pocket watch case and. Kent Singer. Opening wrist watch cases. Earlier wrist watches are often similar to. Watch movement made by Elgin National Watch Co. Elgin Illinois. Inside a watch case made by Illinois Watch Case Co. Elgin Illinois. The reason that the movement and case serial numbers are unrelated. American watches were. People would go to the. Or, if they were more interested in fashion than the. The. jeweler would then put the movement and the case together. With. only a few exceptions, the watch companies and watch case. In addition, watch cases tended to wear out much quicker than the. So, the owner would sometimes go through two. Obviously, these. Even after the 1. Case serial number is highlighted. For the most part, case serial numbers only server to confuse. To the best of my. There are a few minor. The case serial number is printed on several parts of the. You can usually tell if you have a complete watch. Sometimes, the watch case companies would mark the bezels with. Roman numerals. Usually the Roman numerals are scratched in by hand. For. example, a case with a serial number of 1. X   VI   VIIII. This code is. Roman numbers, the X is for zero, not ten, and the 9 might not. IX. For Elgin watches, case serial numbers on solid gold watches. Gta Sa Wheel Installer. So, if someone is selling a watch as solid gold, and. The reverse, however, isnt true, a small serial. Case serial numbers, if they are recorded, can help if the. Both the movement and case serial. All of these are rules of thumb, not absolutes, there are many. Again, for the most part, case. Jeweler marks are highlighted. There are often small numbers called jeweler marks scratched on. When a watch was brought in for repair or cleaning, the watchmaker. Sometimes these scratches would be some form of. There was no standard across the. The table below with the serial numbers and years has be compiled. I believe it to be reasonably accurate. However, no table like this can be completely accurate because. Elgin didnt produce watches in sequential order. It was very. common for groups of watches to be set aside and finished months. After the watch was. About the best you can say that the watch was probably not. High volume. watches will tend to be closer to the date listed, while. New models of watches may be released. Finally, I can find no definitive source of official dates, and. Ive found. This is especially true for the earlier years. The raw sources that I created this list from can be found. Actually, it looks like I mostly used the first list I recommend you use the Elgin. Online Database to learn approximately what year your. It is quicker and less error prone. This page is really only useful as background information on how the. Online Database determines the dates. Movement serial number is highlighted. Elgin originally started out with just a number, but in the late 1. Even later in the late 1. Elgin. phased out the use of serial numbers. If your watch has a letter prefix, you must first replace that. For example, H6. 32. N7. 19. 3 would be converted into 4. Serial Number Letter Prefix to Millions. Digits. Letter. XC, E, T or YLUJVHNFSRPKIMillions Digits. Now, find the first serial number that is larger than your. Serial Number. Year 3. Serial Number. Year 5,0. Serial Number. Year. Serial Number. Year. Heckel Bassoons. Last update. Heckel Bassoon Documents. I have obtained some documents that Heckel used during the 1. Several of these documents had been used for years. A document showing the intonation. Heckel bassoons serial 1. A line drawing of the two models. Heckel bassoons offered in 1. An order form for a Heckel bassoon in 1. The handwritten figures were the. Deutsch Marks to dollars at the time. The most blessed event the letter. Heckel bassoon. is nearly completed. Time to warn your banker Heckel Bassoon Options. In the past, Heckel offered a wide array of models of bassoons. At the time of Heckels 1. Heckel. catalog listed 2. Heckel bassoon including the model 4. This model was reportedly produced for tropical climates. Keywork options were offered by way of these different models. The model number 4. German system bassoons. World System. keywork left hand French system, right hand German system. Currently, Heckel produces only one model of the bassoon, the 4. Click here to see the standard catalog options offered for a new Heckel bassoon. Heckel Bassoon Notes. Instrument identification   Serial Numbers. The Heckel firm was founded in 1. The first serial number stamped was 3. Heckel bassoon serial numbers are assigned when the wood for the instrument is chosen. After the serial number is assigned the wood is cured for at least 1. This can cause variations in serial numberyear progression it is possible. Heckel bassoon serial numbers are not continuous. There are known gaps. The reason for these gaps is not always known even by the factory. For example, according to company sources. Manufacturing Mark. Heckel bassoons also have a manufacturing mark. The manufacturing mark is a number. This number can be found in Arabic form under the boot cap following the serial number. Roman numeral form inscribed on the underside of the keys. It can also be found by a series of small pin holes, or dots punched in the. These dots are typically found under keys so that they cannot be seen when the instrument. This web page uses the convention serialmanufacturing mark. This number is sometimes erroneously referred to as a. The manufacturing mark does not connect a specific instrument with a specific builder or build desk in any way. Construction Changes Through History   Rubber bore liner. The hard rubber liner was introduced and patented by Wilhelm Heckel in 1. Flat Back Long Joint. In the late 4. 00. Heckel changed from building flat back long joints to. You can clearly see a flat back long joint on bassoon 4. The back of the long joint is built with a plateau, similar to what is still made for the wing C key. Long BoreShort Bore. During 1. 92. 2 around serial number 5. Heckel changed from building small bore. In order to accomidate this change, the wing, boot and long joint have shorter tube. In America the wide bore instruments are frequently referred to as short bore bassoons. Before serial number 5. Thick Wall Construction. In 1. 96. 3 around serial number 1. Heckel began making the walls of the bassoon thicker. The standard story explaining the reason for this changes was that the thinner walled instruments. Very recently the 1. Ivory Bell Ring. Real ivory was used for the ivory bell ring until the 1. From that point on, a very good imitation made of plastic has been used. According to recent reports, Heckel has once again begun using real ivory. African animal management programs. However, new bassoons sent to the US will continue to have plastic rings. US ivory importation laws. Low D Key Guard. The shape of Low D key guard has changed over time. Originally, the Low D key guard was a half cap over the lower half of the Low D key cup. By the time of the manufacture of 3. Later the guard changed to a bar similar to the modern Bb key guard on the back of the boot joint. During the 6. 00. Low D key guard became the shape that it continues to have today. Back Ab Key. Heckel bassoons until 7. Ab key as a separate tone hole on the back of the boot. After 7. 40. 0 the default mechanism for the. Ab key was to operate the front Ab key via a connecting rod through the boot joint. The back Ab key as a separate tone hole is still available as option 1. Low G Key. The Low G key was originally connected from front to back by a keywork mechanism that wrapped around. This permanently changed between 4. The following is an explanation of some of the typical variations you may find in instrument descriptions. World System. You will notice some instruments listed as World System. French left hand. Muccetti system after Enzo Muccetti. Pezzi system. These were all attempts to blend the French bassoon key system Boehm with the. German Heckel system. Typically this was done by building the left hand with the French. German key system, although the centennial 1. Heckel catalog. does contain some models that have right hand Boehm system keywork. Bell Shape. Heckel builds bassoons with what the factory calls three different styles of bells. German,French and Italian bells factory options 7. This indicates only the external shape of the bell. This terminology should not be confused with the type of bell ring. Heckel bassoon with a metal bell ring does not indicate a French bell. German bell with a metal bell ring. The French bell has a significantly different external shape. I have been told by Roger Birnstingl that the Italian bell also know as the. Muccetti bell has the same bore. It is also quite a bit lighter, weighing in at around 2. German bell. Gentlemens Model. Some instruments are listed as a Gentlemens model. These instruments have a joint lower on the top of the long joint. Low B and C keys which allows the instrument to be taken apart into. Typically there is still a normal bell joint option 8. Low B and C keys option 8. Notes about the instrument table. Heckel Bassoon Serial Numbers. For your convenience, you may use the following hyperlinks to jump directly to a specific. Heckel bassoon series. Serial Number. Date. Known Owners. Pictures. Description. History. Known Sales. 29. 99. Front. Back. Right thumb hole. U Tube. Front of boot. Back of boot. Old style HECKEL label. Back of wing. Front of wing. Long joint. Bell. This appears to be a pre 3. Heckel bassoon. I have assigned the ficticous serial number 2. Made of palisander wood. All joints. All joints flipped over. Heckel label on the wing joint. Front of wing and back of Long joint. This is the oldest known Heckel bassoon still in use. Low A for left little finger, Tristan Stuerze. In the Music Institut of the University of Tuebingen. Front. Back. 30. 50. Complete instrument. In Case. 12. 00. Bay3. There are indications that at one time this was a low A model. On pegs. Seen in the Kenmochi Bassoon Works Japan, 12. Full length. Bell. Left thumb area. Left thumb area 2Back of boot. Left thumb area 3Left thumb area 4Front of boot. Label on bell. 102. Detail of serial number. Instrument in case. Back of boot joint. Front of boot joint. Another view of the front of the boot joint. Side of boot joint, showing old style G key mechanism. Long joint showing flat back. Back of wing joint. Front of wing joint. Detail of low B key. Detail of low D key. Close up of winglong joint back. Close up of boot joint fronttop. Close up of boot joint backtop. Close up of boot joint frontbottom. Close up of boot joint backbottom. A4. 40, crook lock, front RH rollers, lined left hand tone holes. BayNebraska3. 31. Instrument in case. Boot joint. Wing joint.